Fare Thee Well, Aaron As You Go With Our Kind Regards

To the mirth of just about everyone, Aaron Ramsey sent a heartfelt message of thanks to the fans and then left the PR apprentice to finish off the message. “Kind regards”, to the mirth of just about everyone, was a businesslike end.

Mind you, I’d be inclined to do the same having seen Arsenal’s terse statement. Aaron, ten years in the marketing department, received the thanks reserved for the anonymous cog in the corporate machine.

He’s signed a £400k deal although even that brought it’s own comedy moment:

The trouble was Juve talked out of school and Marcotti confirmed Ornstein’s words. Fair play to Aaron’s team for negotiating a deal giving him a bigger weekly wage than Mesut Ozil. The pressure in Turin will be more intense than the German faces here but I do think Ramsey is more capable of delivering than the German. That said, it’s a pretty low bar he has to rise above.

We have gone over the mismanagement of contracts before which doesn’t change the situation we find ourselves in now. Will it change the future? There’s hope that this winter’s trouble focuses minds on how we deal with renewals.

There’s a defined limit to the length of player’s contracts to the point where clubs are easily able to avoid this situation. Arsene spoke about it becoming the norm. “You will see more and more players going into the final year of their contract,” Wenger observed. “In the next 10 years, it will become usual.”

You Want Glib, I’ll Give You Glib

I’m not convinced this is going to be true. More likely, it strikes me, is that clubs will sign players to five-year deals and if renewal isn’t agreed at the end of Year 3, a sale happens from that point on. There’s the obvious proviso that if a player doesn’t want to move, he won’t but that will be a minority of cases.

Most players can’t afford their careers to stall so will reluctantly look at a move. And let’s be honest, the players who this will impact are those who are, relatively speaking, easily replaceable and upgradable. The likes of Ramsey can sit tight and wait although I’m pretty sure he will freely admit to frustration at sitting on the bench.

It’s why I think Mesut Ozil will depart next summer. Wasting three or four years just training is a glib assertion tossed on paper. The reality is that frustration kicks in if you just sit around not playing, as many a professional opined in the past. To believe every professional is cut from the same cloth as Winston Bogarde is naive at best.

From the club perspective, the self-sustaining model is more reliant on player ‘profits’ than ever. That’s the same with every club – Liverpool’s ‘record’ profit relied entirely on Coutinho’s sale – bar those whose owners flagrantly flout FFP rules with seeming impugnity.

I wonder if this is the tipping point for another seismic change within football. Professionalism in the 1800s, minimum wage in the 1960s, Bosman two decades later; power swung from owner to players and is almost as extreme. There’s a reckoning coming which will see it slip back toward the clubs in the near future. I’m not sure what the trigger will be, but it feels like one is due.

Respect

This morning sees the sad news that Gordon Banks, England’s World Cup winning goalkeeper, passed away aged 81. For many people, he remains the finest we produced and his save from Pele in 1970 is still hailed as the best in the competition’s history.

Best ever? David Seaman against Sheffield United gives him a run for his money.

It’s mad that despite his reputation, my enduring memory is of Peter Storey getting the better of him in 1971

Sorry, Banksy, and all that.

It was a different era, to be cliched. Banks wore gloves in Mexico but not at Hillsborough, relying instead on his hands and a good coating of saliva for grip on the ball. Mind you, most goalkeeping gloves from that era would barely pass muster as cheap gardening gloves these days.

Rest in Peace.

’til Tomorrow.

41 thoughts on “Fare Thee Well, Aaron As You Go With Our Kind Regards

  1. £400k . 😷 . A fuckin week! Basic. And I doubted your previous report of 300!
    Fuckin Bonkers. Good luck to Rambo, but it does make me sick.
    Imagine what Banksy would have given for that….

  2. “More likely, it strikes me, is that clubs will sign players to five-year deals and if renewal isn’t agreed at the end of Year 3, a sale happens from that point on.”

    Spot on YW. Wenger identified the issue, but with Terrible Ivan did nothing to resolve it. Meanwhile up at Wensleydale Hart Lane Dr Evil has been spinning 5 year contracts for a number of years.

  3. I was thinking the same Ferkov. Great deal for Ramsey!

    For a player that gets injured regularly it’s a mighty risk for Juve. If Rambo’s on £400k per week imagine what Ronaldo is pocketing? £1M?? They’re going heavy for Champions League to the point of bankrupting the club. Sounds very Italian.

    ferkov:
    £400k . . A fuckin week! Basic.And I doubted your previous report of 300!
    Fuckin Bonkers.Good luck to Rambo, but it does make me sick.
    Imagine what Banksy would have given for that….

  4. No need to get steamed up about Rambo’s wages. Juve are paying this, be cause they are getting the player free. Ivan was bad, but I am not convinced the current duo- Vinai and Raul who are managing the Club are any good.
    Spuds are improving because of Poch. Emery has to look at Poch,’s methods. He could get the players cheap from Championship or develop our youngsters or both.

  5. St Totteringham,

    I accept that Poch is getting good output from the turkeys, and has a decent record in his past. But no better that Unai. And I hope that given a decent ferkin shot at it ,he’d hope that he’ll do fine without copying Poch.
    We’ve already got Guendo and Xhaka diving / going down easy, all we need is everyone to put in two footed challenges and we’re there!
    Turkeys ain’t won anything yet. They have a number of their best players at the peaks of their powers. Give Unai a break.

  6. Exactly YW. Wenger got that one wrong. Even getting Rambo free 400k a wk! I can’t believe that. Talk about pressure. I hope he’s up for it. I wish him all the best and will be making a point of watching as much of Juve as I can.

  7. Maybe Wenger just meant we will see more Arsenal players running they’re contracts down in the future. Wilshire, Ramsey, Ozil….?

  8. BEWARE pure hyperbole approaching!
    Wailesy,

    I think he speaks from his own perspective and experience, and philosophy.
    His perspective was one verging on compulsive collector , category footballers, sub category technical midfielders. He just couldn’t let them go.
    His experience as Arsenal boss drifted from being the helm of a Club that everyone wanted to come to, to being one that … was not as attractive as many alternatives.
    His Philosophy is that he is a winner, and his teams are winners, and that he should never admit otherwise ,or the game is over….
    So he was Desperate to hold on to players in his search for upcoming/inevitable glories.
    No one in the Club stood up to him. We end up with all our top players running down their contracts.

  9. £80m over the course of 4 years. I’m assuming Juve sees it as paying £40m for Ramsey and giving him a £200k per week contract. Looking at it from that angle, I believe he’s worth it.
    I won’t forget the FA Cup winning goals anytime soon. We all know he’s going to win consecutive serie A titles. Best of luck to you Aaron.

  10. Afternoon,

    I’m amazed at the length of the contract Ramsey has managed to get. 4 years at 400k a week puts his basic at nearly £85m over the length of the contract. Now that’s proper retirement planning. It doesn’t matter that there will probably have been at least three different managers at PSG by the time his deal is up, Ramsey will have banked a very nice chunk of change.

  11. Great post Yogi

    I have to admit I am surprised about Ramsey getting $400K/week. It shows how stupid our front office was because clearly we could have brought a reasonable amount of money if we had sold him. I guess C was wrong when he said that Ramsey would not be a regular for Juve because obviously they rate him more highly then C does. I said this yesterday but I think Ramsey will be a disappointment because I don’t think Ramsey is a difference making player. That sort of wage puts really ramps up expectations and even Juve and its fans won’t like the idea of overpaying for an OK but not great player. The one thing Ramsey does have going for him is he will always work hard and no one will ever accuse him of lacking ambition or energy on the pitch.

  12. Yogi, Unfortunately I think you are being far to optimistic if you really think we will be able to offload Ozil next summer. Unlike most footballers I don’t think he cares that much about playing actually playing football anymore. Why else would he turn down a loan to PSG? I suspect the only way he will move is if he gets more money and I think that is highly unlikely. If Ramsey is worth $400K then Mesut is probably worth less then half of that on the open market at this point in his career.

  13. For all the flack I give Ramsey, I do think he is a good player that has certain qualities. 400k though for a player that has battled inconsistency and injuries is eye catching stuff.

    I am interested to see how he gets into that Juve side and for a player that needs that isn’t always tactically or positionally aware, it will be something to watch how he does in a league where tactics and positioning. With that said, I do wish him all thr success in the world especially given his career looked to be over after that tackle.

  14. Bill,

    Unlike PL clubs, just because you get a big paypacket, doesn’t mean your a regular. When you look at that Juve midfield, its hard to imagine him being a regular and displacing some of those. I mean they have Pjanic, Matuidi, Bennacur, Bernardeschi Cann(who is just now back from injury) and that is with rumours of Khederia leaving.

  15. Ridiculous money of course, but what isn’t these days?

    Good luck to him, never his biggest fan bur he has worked hard for the club.

    I am interested to see hoe he performs somewhere else.

  16. Breaking News

    400k
    this will bankrupt Juve
    his legs uninsurable
    failing to meet the definition of ‘durable’.

  17. Bill

    Personally, I think he’s off to Turkey to be a megastar and that in fact, the wages aren’t really an issue. Turkish clubs can push out the boat so he might not lose too much.

    However, if he wants to maintain megabucks, he’ll go to China where their wage lunacy apparently shows no sign of ending.

  18. C:
    Bill,

    Unlike PL clubs, just because you get a big paypacket, doesn’t mean your a regular. When you look at that Juve midfield, its hard to imagine him being a regular and displacing some of those.I mean they have Pjanic, Matuidi, Bennacur, BernardeschiCann(who is just now back from injury) and that is with rumours of Khederia leaving.

    C

    I can’t believe they would pay him $400K/week unles they were planning fir him to be part of their first choice 11

  19. YW:
    Bill

    Personally, I think he’s off to Turkey to be a megastar and that in fact, the wages aren’t really an issue. Turkish clubs can push out the boat so he might not lose too much.

    However, if he wants to maintain megabucks, he’ll go to China where their wage lunacy apparently shows no sign of ending.

    I am skeptical but I hope you are right.

  20. Will mesut’s brand new wife really want to move to Turkey or China? Hopefully he could get a wage increase that would make it an offer which is too good to refuse.

  21. Ramsey never quite looked like he fit in the team and not just because he was often played out of position. This season he’s looked pretty effective on the rare occasions he’s played – shame we couldn’t translate that into a fee but we all seem agreed he put in the effort, had his moments and leaves with a certain amount of goodwill.
    What Juve is thinking is a more difficult question. Are they just getting an assett on a free before flipping it? Perhaps with their existing blessings in midfield they can rotate him, reducing the injuries? Perhaps one of their names is making noises about Spain or Bayern and they want cover in place before they get held to ransom? Perhaps they actually believe he can be consistent?
    Good luck to him anyway and, as with all insanely overpaid people, I hope he finds something more interesting to do with the cash than just buying status symbols.

  22. Farewell to the rambo. Good pro you have to say and a great servant here at the club. Will be interesting to tune into a Juve game. What will Ronaldo think when rambo gets the ball in midfield, dillys on it for 10 seconds, then finally decides to pass him the ball :p :p

  23. Bill,

    Since she is a famous Turkish woman, she may be ok with living in grand style in her home country. I think the problem might be that under Erdogan recently the economy has been so poor that the Turkish Lira’s value has fallen dramatically last year and the country is very short of foreign currency—350k £ has become incredibly steep for Turkish clubs.

  24. I think Ramsey will be quite successful in Italy. And I think he gets in ahead of Matuidi with a Pjanic and Bentancour

  25. I expect Allegri will have to teach him some tactical and positional discipline. But 400k will always make it seem as if he is overpaid. If I were Juve, I would have paid 20m and asked Rambo to settle for 300 with fitness/appearance bonuses so that he would be available to them this year in the CL.

  26. Limestone

    I didn’t know his wife is Turkish. Perhaps the option of moving to Turkey will be a real possibility. I hope that can work out. It could be the best thing for all parties.

  27. Ozil’s agent was quite specific when speaking of the “master plan”. One more big contract in London while he was in his peak with the hope of becoming an Arsenal legend. Then off to Turkey to finish off his career.

    I’m pretty sure Yogi even wrote it down at the time.

  28. No Cavani, no Neymar, no Munier and PSG get 2 away goals and to top it off, Pogba goes gets himself a red and Martial goes off injured.

    I think the commentator was spot on when he said something to the likes of PSG strangled Manure and thei attack and Buffon had a quiet night for the majority of the match.

  29. C,

    Agree. Pretty humiliating for MU to be thoroughly outplayed by PSG without Neymar and Cavani at OT. MU totally lost their composure and You g should have been off as well. Hopefully Martial and Lingard are our for a while in the league. Ole was unable to grapple with PSG—hope the bubble bursts now. Let’s beat them at home and get top 4.

  30. YW:
    Bill

    Personally, I think he’s off to Turkey to be a megastar and that in fact, the wages aren’t really an issue. Turkish clubs can push out the boat so he might not lose too much.

    However, if he wants to maintain megabucks, he’ll go to China where their wage lunacy apparently shows no sign of ending.

    Yeap…something wong with it…

  31. LSG,

    Completely agree, think Ole was trying to recreate Manure’s front 3 with Rooney, Tevez, Ronaldo with the pace, quickness and ability they brought when he’s played Rashford, Martial, Lindegard (though not at the formers level) and a solid base in midfield. I’m with you, they can certainly be had and top 4 for us but we have to play with attacking freedom. We certainly can’t defend and play on the counter but attacking wise, we have the talent in Aubameyang, Lacazette, Iwobi and he has to play one of Ramsey or Ozil(my preference is Ozil) along with the base of Torriera and Guendouzi.

  32. I think whats truly naive is to think Ozil will just move at this stage of his career simply to play football at a significantly lesser wage.

    That just indicates an attempt to promote your personal wishes and ideas as the most logical outcome, which is not necessarily the case.

    Turkey would definitely be a likelihood if it wasn’t for the fact that their economy is toast .

    China? Not so much, many players simply don’t want to be that far out of their comfort zone, but who knows, a mega-offer might tempt him – there it is again – the motivation would be money, not necessarily playing time.

    Ozil might or might not move at the end of the season, but at his age and stage of his career I think you’re kidding yourself if you think money isn’t the overriding issue.

  33. Mike

    > Turkey would definitely be a likelihood if it wasn’t for the fact that their economy is toast.

    The economy has nothing to do with it. Turkish clubs still offer huge wages compared to many other leagues.

    Also, when Ozil’s wages are quoted, don’t forget that an element of the £350k per week is a signing-on bonus. Each time they sign a deal that gets added in. His wages equate to £350k but he won’t get that every week. And when players leave, they receive the full amount of those bonuses as a general rule. So he could, I’d guess, be entitled to three or four years worth of £50-100k per week. It isn’t going to be as much of a body-blow as you’re making out.

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