The usual media speculation is filling the back pages and airwaves over recent days with The Sun Says So It Must Be True claiming the Club are worried AW is off to Madrid despite all those ‘close’ to him indicating the contrary and that Bernd Schuster has been heavily linked with the role since Christmas. Freddie says he’s staying until he finishes playing; his contract is up in two years time so he will be on the rolling one year contracts if Arsenal still use them at that point considering that they breach the Age Discrimination Laws or retiring at the age of 32.
Obefami Martins is being moved to the Club by the media and Fat Sam is increasing that media move with his comments. In this instance, you can have sympathy with the Newcastle fans having been through the same sort of crap with Henry. Personally, whilst he may be a good player, he will be out of circulation for up to six weeks in the Winter so is he the correct solution? And everyone is getting excited because Carlos Tevez wouldn’t be rushed by Internazionale because he loves the Premiership so much. I’m sure the public declaration by West Ham that they were offering him £115k a week had no bearing on this at all. Which begs the question when does the money count more than the opportunities? If Arsenal did come a-knocking with an offer for less, would Tevez answer the call or would he stay put to earn more?
One player who seems hell-bent on coming is Bakari Sagna. Having professed his strong desire to join Arsenal recently, reports suggest that we have had one bid knocked back already. The player is supposedly unhappy with this and willing to strike over it, reportedly saying that he will not be turning up for pre-season training if he doesn’t get his own way. The Auxerre President, Gerard Bourgoin, said yesterday,
Sagna has a deep desire to play in England and he genuinely wants to wear the Arsenal shirt. They seem keen to sign him as well. The conditions for him to leave have not all been met — at least for the time being
I guess that those ‘conditions’ mean another million or so on the offer and if Arsene wants him then they will probably be met in the next week or so. Which will not satisfy those who want a ‘big’ signing now and resent the fact we haven’t made it yet, noting that others have been active and we have not. However, given there is another six or seven weeks until the season starts and a full two months before the transfer window closes, is there any reason to rush? Better to get the player you want rather than rush into a ‘bad’ deal as Fat Sam reckoned Newcastle had done with Martins and Owen, referring to their exceptionally cheap release clauses. Going the other way seems to be Matthieu Flamini who likes the look of Steve Bruce; takes all sorts I suppose. I thought he said he would be buying out his contract but it seems he will be contributing a couple of million to the coffers instead.
Elsewhere, Michel Platini is proving to be a right Royal pain in the Arsenal. Apparently, his plans for Cup winners to have a place in the Champions League have been presented to UEFA’s Executive Committee and will now go forward for a final ‘decision’ in September. Like one has not been taken already. If approved – we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say that the ‘fix’ is not already in place – it means that fourth place in the Premiership will now qualify you for the UEFA Cup and the Cup Winners will get a play-off against the lowest equivalent qualifiers in France, Italy, Spain, Germany and Portugal. Put into practice this time round and Arsenal would be playing one of Toulouse, Lazio, Valencia, Werder Bremen or Benfica just to get into the final qualifying round. A UEFA source said:
The president appears very keen to include Cup winners in the Champions League – it boosts national associations and also helps Cup competitions in those countries where it has diminished in importance
So it would seem that the competition rigging goes on; seedings in the Qualifiers and Groups to ensure that the top teams progress with a sop to the smaller nations that allow them to believe they have a chance to get through. In England’s case, it seems that barring a miracle, the top four in the Premiership will still qualify as it is over a decade since someone outside of the top four won the FA Cup (in fact it might be the top two of that season but not sure where Liverpool finished when they won the Cup) but it is another erosion to the Competition, getting further away from the use of the word ‘Champion’ than ever.
’til Tomorrow.
First you said he broke it while show boating.
I tell you the club says he broke it while scoring
Then you say arsenal.com are as reliable as the hitler journals. Come again?!?!?!
Then you use arsenal.com to say that “while scoring” actually means celebrating. ??!?!
Then you say watch him slide 20 ft after he scores. I watch the video (already remembering that he didn’t slide) and he never slides. Besides it is impossible to break your 5th metatarsal (small toe) in his RIGHT foot from simply sliding with your feet flexed. The fracture would have maybe been in his ankle and only then in the most extreme of circumstances. However, it a break in the 5th metatarsal in the RIGHT foot does make sense if that is his planting foot, esp considering the angle he had to score the goal with.
Then you say how could he have slid (which he never did any way) if he broke his foot in the move before the goal. Then I say, well he KEPT PLAYING until the final whistle and CELEBRATED AGAIN after Henry’s goal.
I have reasoned you into a corner.
Soooooo, how am I wrong again?
Do you mean a sliding celebration? Or do you mean the short skid he took because his momentum made him almost tumble? If the latter: first off you mischaracterize by saying he went 20 ft; and second, in no right mind can you say he was celebrating or showboating in that moment. More like sacrficing himself for the cause. Wrong on all counts. Shut and down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_van_Persie
come on yogi ! WAKE UP ! OR IM OFF !
wow you are thick mate. this argument started because you said he broke it while celebrating or as you say “showboating” (i’ll even use your ill-gotten terminology; i guess now players aren’t allowed to show any emotion when they score). But if you watch the video (which I have linked to above) it is clear as day that he broke his 5th metatarsal while planting it in the ground to score at an awkward angle. I have refuted your one article with the official arsenal report. How can the BBC know better than the Arsenal medical staff. Where do you think they get their info in the first place? Ever heard of a thing called misreporting? Wow. Silencio.
hahaha! “wikipedia are gods at getting there facts straight !”
….and guess who wikipedia’s source is….drum roll….bbc!!! BBC made a mistake here. Pretty inconsequential mistake but a mistake nonetheless.
sorry if this is annoying every one else but here is another aricle from espnsoccernet
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=211540&cc=5901#injury
“Van Persie fractures foot’
Arsenal striker Robin van Persie has sustained a ‘partial fracture’ to his foot.
The Dutch player suffered the injury when scoring the equalising goal in today’s 2-1 Barclays Premiership defeat of Manchester United.
After watching captain Thierry Henry score a stoppage-time winner, Gunners boss Arsene Wenger revealed he had hoped to let substitute van Persie – currently the club’s top scorer – rest until United’s opener forced his hand. The 23-year-old had been struggling with an ankle injury in the build-up to the game. ”
Emphasis mine
sorry bout that. you can delete 56 if you’d like, yogi
OK Children. Enough. Agree to disagree or take it offline.
I don’t have time to sit here all day moderating comments because curiously enough, I have a job.
I’ve deleted the ones I think are offensive. But before you post a comment, think about it. Re-read it and remove the name-calling because frankly people stop reading it.
And why the hell are you arguing over how RvP got injured. It’s over. He’ll be fit again for the start of the season; look forwards, not backwards.
oh yes its a conspiry against you ! i saw the game and yes he was celebrating your wrong !!!
read any article you want .. he did it whilst celebrating!! its everywhere in black and white , and i also remember it….
Edited by YW
A long time after the ManU game…after RvP had been seen by specialists and had had a longitudinal pin inserted into his fifth metatarsal on his right foot, Gary lewin reported that RvPs injury had been sustained over several games. He had been playing with a cracked metatarsal for a while. In the ManU game Arsene played him against his own better judgement. You will remember that RvP was still recovering from an ankle injury. The extra pressure he placed on his right foot because of the ankle injury on his left ‘probably’ contributed to the fracture, but that is all anyone knows. He may have put his foot down hard whilst scoring or whilst celebrating but the player himself doe not know ..so no-one knows. AW reported after the game that he thought he moght have sustained the injury whilst celebrating but was not sure..this idea gained currency in the f*****g media becuase it is ‘interesting’. The most important thing is that he is a bloody fantastic player and he should be well prepared for the next season.
Perhaps more important than all of this though is that you guys neeed to seek some help. Maybe speak to an adult or a youth worker or if you are feeling really poorly perhaps a psychiatrist. You see a lot of us are becoming thoroughly sick of providing free counselling for you.
ive tried to stop this idiot ! 3 times and remember that faithful night i abused you it was over this dickhead saying i had my head up my ass ! and being rude !
can you see who the looser is NOW ? and how he gets my goat up !?!?!
listen your a great guy and i havnt got time to be spending my only FUN hours debating BULLSHIT with this dick !
hopefully theres enough swear words in here that you wont air it
either he goes or i do .. several sources prove im right ..
read em if you can be bothered (as ive given up ) and i remember the incident. it should be end of story,
hes on another planet .. uranus maybe ..
too much acid or somesuch but i really am getting this
i cant be bothered syndrome with these guys you have on here .
i spose its my fault as im a perfectionist personality and if there is an injustice or someone is just SPURTING BULLSHIT
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i take it upon myself to tell the mother fuckers !
( now i know you wont air it
Last ill say on it is this: Some folks just see what they want to see instead of reality. Don’t understand how you can say that a player who scores a goal for your beloved team is a showboat just because he sacrifices his body for the team. It was misreported that he was injured while celebrating and maure fans clung to this little fact it like a life supporter, and it gave them some solace. Yet he did nothing out of the ordinary (didn’t pull a keane or a lua-lua). And even while some reported correctly that he was injured WHILE scoring (soccernet, arsenal) somehow one of our own so-called fans can be fed a bitter manure rumour and buy it hook line and sinker. I’m done. Sorry YW.
Apoligize for many moons ago asking you to take your head out of your arse. You were one of the first posts I saw that day. It was so negative that it got my goat. Also wasn’t quite familiar with the tone yogi wanted only his blog only really until today.
Im not going anywhere, however.
If yogi read does read the transcript of our debate, and decides to kick someone off based on who is more knowledgeable re: 5th metatarsal breaks, i think you’d be pleasantly suprised by the outcome.
Debate closed. I’m not re-reading it all because I have enough to do already.
Both of you – go to your respective garages, draw a picture of what you think each other looks like and throw darts at it. Get it out of your system and then we’ll move onto something else to discuss over the weekend.
haha great idea.
yes the bbc are wrong arnt they ..and wiki .. and countless others
yet arsenal.give me the money. com ,and some website that call football soccer is your sources (and they only say he did it whilst scoring (scoring does include the celebration in it THEY ARE PIN POINTING THE TIME THE INJURY HAPPENED plus it doesnt make it sound like he was reckless ,stupid etc showing respect which you have none of . ), sure he didnt do back flips
but if he just scored the goal and didnt do anything stupid , i was alluding to we MIGHT HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT SEASON !
he was on fire , and it all ended due to imaturity ! sounds a bit like you !
sounds good to me !
Deleted by YW. Debate Closed.
Comments are now moderated and won’t appear until I’ve approved them. Or deleted them. In which case they won’t appear at all.
Debate closed as yogi said .. i didnt read anything prior, i know what i saw .and sources confirmed it.. med staff ,arsenal.com who gives? DROP IT MAN !!
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onto a better subject of replacement strikers to partner
with the man of the hour (or 2 hours ) RVP.
alot of people are matching us up with tevez, i do think he would be a good signing, but 1 point is he isnt french and
2ndly would arsenal connect himself to a player with contractual problems in the past ? it does seem so from reports as it seems man U ,liverpoo and us it seems are linked to him
i think Huntelaar would fit in very well next to RVP .
also ibrimovich would be a great signing !
podolski .. why arnt we linked to names like this ?
tevez is definately the best name so far , but can we afford him based on 30 mil ?
west ham showed interest in freddy , do you think thats why freddy is predicting a tevez for freddy deal ?
is that why freddy has came out and stated his loyalty to us ?!
martins for 13 mil seems like the price range .reasonable player , still yet to peak ! could be an arsene special .
arsene was told to sell some players if he wants some money for transfers (no one expected henry) but i thought freddy might be ousted!?
paid alot , didnt do much last season .. hes got all the makings of the board fodder or arsene fodder . and west ham seemed to want to take him off our hands.
think freddys commitment speech might have something to do with him reading press reports that tevez would love an arsenal move !@
TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!TEVEZ!!!!!!!
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
he is world class already stated his desire 2 join us rejected inter and said he will leave west ham but wants to play 4 a big club but stay in london.DAT IS 1 OF DA BIGGEST HINTS IVE EVA SEEN!!!!!!!!
aswell bakary sagna is an excellent defender and would be a welcome addition to the squad .. the only other thing arsenal need is a left winger to challegne 4 de prem ..but the futures bright 4 da arsenal with many young prodegies working there wat through the ranks and i cant understand all this ”crisis at arsenal” talk its a load of bull… dont believe what you read in the papers at alll!!!!!!!!! some journalist linked tim cahill to da mancs and l8r said he only linked him because he liked him as a player…….AWWWWWWWWWWWW CANT WAIT 2 C CARLITOS IN THE ARSENAL COLOURS NEXT SEASON (hopefully)
sure i have faith in the yog !
Is the Sun actually saying AW might be off to Madrid? If that’s the case, I broke that story.
So would the FA Cup or Carling Cup winner be in the Champions League according to Platini?
irish ,
reports are cahill has re-signed on anyhow .
yes tevez would change our fortunes . arsene would be mad to dismiss his flattering comments to our club !
ive got my fingers crossed on that one . but he is wanted by 4 other clubs .. if our offer is just average like the ribery one , we might well misss the bus ! the tevez bus !
but i think unless we do a freddy deal , the price tag might be over inflated to the BOSSS. or le boss .
babel plays down the left wing it was crazy to not snap him up . his price will double by next season !
too much speculation around at the moment and not enough movement .. whilst other clubs are definately putting there boots in ! emirants cups only 4 weeks away . lets hope we can get some players by then ..
why does he get to continue the debate but I don’t? It’s fine with me if you delete this, im actually just wondering. he only sites the BBC. What about soccernet, Arsenal, ireland online, bloomberg? They confirm what I say. So does the video. Just curious. “just drop it” last bastion of no facts.
All media sources carry a different slant on facts. Everyone does. I’ve sat next to someone and had a different view of the game. It happens.
Anyway they’ve moved onto other things. We will too. That seriously is th last comment I will allow on RvP’s metatarsal. Next one up gets put into the spam trap until tomorrow. A sin bin on the Blog, if you like.
If you ask me, cup winners are more deserving of playing in the Champions’ League that the team that finishes second, third or fourth in its national league. Perhaps the Champions’ League should be, I dunno, for Champions. Admit the league winners and national cup winners (whatever that country’s ‘main’ cup competition is – FA Cup, Copa del Rey etc.) from each UEFA member nation. That way, the UEFA Champions League would be… the champions from UEFA member nations.
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Hey guys, heard that West Ham is offering Tevez 115k pound a week. Too rich for Arsene I think.
It would upset the whole Arsenal pay structure if we do sign him for that amount.
If he is willing to come at 50k then that is fine.
arsenalist
i actually broke the arsene leaving story 6 weeks ago to barca or madrid, but know one believed me then !
and DD , it dont take a rocket scientist to realize hes going ! or leaning that way..
just ask yogi !
i would just like to see the guy commit ! especially with all the young players he’s brought thru .
i think he fancys madrid more than barca . hey he could sell reyes to himself !
if he’s not commited to arsenal then im all for it NOW ! before he spends the big money,
because next all the fans will turn on him for who he buys this season !
teoh
i dont think even arsene knows his own future yet, as for tevez i think its just a pipe dream . his transfer would be around 30 mil and there goes all our funding we have too many other holes to fill to just get tevez… 13 mil for martins makes much more sence.. i mean id love him to sign eto and totti . but you have to look at the money available .and the way arsene has bought players in the past ..
tevez – torres – and the injury prone owen isnt the answer.
i think benni mc’carthy would be a great buy ! he has 2 or 3 years of good football left , he was 2nd top scorer in the EPL last season . arsene does like owen though . im on the fence
if he does trigger the 9 mil clause for owen . he is only 27 ..
and probly would be a great purchase if he still kept his form and remained injury free . anelka and owen would give you ALOT of experience up front, but im sure we will only get either owen-anelka – martins . hleb and freddy arnt all that good either at RW, if we get a left winger it would be good to
get someone who can play down both wings . infact i would go as far as to say get both a RW and LW player ..
Can’t see how the restructuring of qualifying for the Champions League will effect any of the big three nations. More often than not a team in England, Spain, or Italy that finished in the top 4 of their league’s table wins their league cup. Additionally, in England at least, while it would make FA or League cup games more meaningful that means the star players have to play in even more games, whereas if left the way it was the the big 4 could continue to rest their best players for the Champions League and the like.